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Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby GMP » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:28 pm

Hello,

I have been slowly improving my home studio over the last few years.

The room currently serves the purpose of jam room and work from home office.

I am looking for advice on what direction to take to improve both the sound of the room and the accuracy of mixing.

This studio is for own use and there will be no clients.
I track electric guitars, bass, live drums and vocals.

The room is 25' x 25' with concrete walls and floor. The ceiling is floor joists and duct work.

I have 16 Roxul safe and sound panels at 32 x 48 and four at 16 x 48.

Rugs cover 60% of the floor.

My immediate plan is to build four 24" x 24" right triangle bass traps from the Roxul.
The laundry will be moving out shortly.

I have no idea how far I want to take things.

I am looking for suggestions on what else to do.
The largest area of concern is tracking drums.

Ideally I would be able to record bass, drums, vocals and guitar all at once will minimal bleed.

I think I want a drum booth and a vocal booth.


Thank you,

Greg

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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby blinddrew » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:54 pm

Personally I'm not a fan booths, I think the acoustic benefits are often outweighed by the blocks (virtual and actual) between the players. I think I'd probably look at some mobile gobos and work on mic positioning to make the most of the spill rather than eliminate it.
But I'm sure others will have opposing opinions...
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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby GMP » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:20 pm

I will look around here for some gobo designs. Maybe a combination of high and low gobos would keep enough out and the room open.

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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby blinddrew » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:11 pm

There's a good podcast here from Mike Senior on using spill to your advantage: http://www.tatadocom.com/techniques ... nd-podcast
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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby Sam Spoons » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:14 pm

I agree with Drew, for me the benefits of playing together as a band far outweigh the disadvantages of spill. Sure it's inconvenient not being able to replace the guitar part if you get it wrong but if you are predominately a live band then I'd try to maintain than vibe.
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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby James Perrett » Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:15 pm

I'm another fan of keeping the musicians together and managing the spill. You have plenty of space there so there's no need for the musicians to be on top of each other.
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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby GMP » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:33 pm

I have ordered some 24" safe and sound for the corner traps and gobos. I figured I will get fabric online this time as I have to wait.

Anybody have time for an opinion on this stuff?

https://www.onlinefabricstore.net/burgundy-polyester-linen-fabric-.htm

I googled "polyester - Heather" to mimic GOM material.

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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby blinddrew » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:07 pm

The critical thing is that it's acoustically transparent, i.e. breathable. Air has to be able to pass through freely.
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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby Hugh Robjohns » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:14 pm

It would be good if it was fire retardant too, and slightly stretchy.
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Postby CS70 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:19 pm

,,and not pink. :D
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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby Sam Spoons » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:08 pm

It's open weave so probably sufficiently permeable to work, but if it is not a bit stretchy it'll be much harder to get a nice finish. Camira Cara is about $15 a metre at UK prices so, I guess, a bit less than double the price of the ebay fabric. How much do you need? 5 metres the saving will be around $30-35.
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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby Luke W » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:14 pm

Unless the budget is really tight, I personally think that Cara is well worth the extra cost. It really is lovely to work with and the finish is great.
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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby GMP » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:33 pm

Sam Spoons wrote:It's open weave so probably sufficiently permeable to work, but if it is not a bit stretchy it'll be much harder to get a nice finish. Camira Cara is about $15 a metre at UK prices so, I guess, a bit less than double the price of the ebay fabric. How much do you need? 5 metres the saving will be around $30-35.


I need 16 yards. I will get a sample of the cheap stuff and report back
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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby Fishnish » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:23 pm

GMP wrote:I will look around here for some gobo designs. Maybe a combination of high and low gobos would keep enough out and the room open.

Thank you

A gentleman by the name of Arik Livnat has several good vids on YT detailing making both low and tall ( windowed) gobos. He also does some wall and ceiling mounted absorbers and diffusors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlaBZQPSkK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yRySn_IIEw
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Re: Home project studio. Next steps.

Postby GMP » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:38 am

Fishnish wrote:
GMP wrote:I will look around here for some gobo designs. Maybe a combination of high and low gobos would keep enough out and the room open.

Thank you

A gentleman by the name of Arik Livnat has several good vids on YT detailing making both low and tall ( windowed) gobos. He also does some wall and ceiling mounted absorbers and diffusors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlaBZQPSkK8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yRySn_IIEw


These are great! Thank you for sharing.
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